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cblj_backupAllow me to give you a tour. A tour of the haunted house of wank in which I currently live.
I kept quiet when this whole thing went down (I think possibly I was camping again; all the fun wank seems to happen while I'm in the woods, which goes to show) and I'm going to admit outright I've never read one of Diana Gabaldon's books, but I think it's time I made a post. And the reason I am making a post is that it haunts me.
A couple of days ago I mentioned Diana Gabaldon to someone in a private email, and since then people keep bringing her up either in my vicinity or to me directly -- at least five or six times, all different people. It's reached the point of absurdity. And I don't want to say Diana Gabaldon haunts me, because as a person I doubt she's aware of my existence, but clearly the concept of her is bearing on my psyche at the moment.
So here's a brief primer: In May of this year, author Diana Gabaldon posted a blog entry about her dislike of fanfic. It's gone missing now, but if you want a summary and screencaps the Fandom Wank entry is here. Quotes included "While not all fan-fic is pornographic by any means, enough of it is that it constitutes an aesthetic argument against the whole notion" and "I think it’s immoral, I know it’s illegal, and it makes me want to barf whenever I’ve inadvertently encountered some of it involving my characters." (You can still see her original post comparing writing fanfic to white slavery.)
There are enough things wrong with these two lines alone that I could write an essay, but they've already been written so you can read those and get the gist of my objections. I will say that the funniest part of that wank, for me, is that an author unexaminedly condemning fanfic is also an author who nicked one of her heroes off Doctor Who. No, for real. And for lulz.
Side note: I like fanfic, I like pornography, and I support and create both (often simultaneously). If you want to write fanfic of my books you go on ahead and by god you have fun. And if you want to make them porny, well, just try to make it good porn. And do read the antipope.org entry linked above first, because it's a good primer on How Not To Wig Out Your Canonist.
ANYWAY, aside from rolling around in slightly stale wank and exorcising the haunting, the point of this post is that the latest RANDOM ACT OF GABALDON to occur in my life was Selkie asking me to ask you for fanfic. Lord John Gray is one of Gabaldon's characters (not the Doctor Who one) and while canonically gay he apparently never gets laid. So Selkie would like reccs to Lord John Gray fanfic, which you may leave here, if you know of any. Or if you want to write some! I'm not fussed.
GET THEE BEHIND ME, FANWANK!
I kept quiet when this whole thing went down (I think possibly I was camping again; all the fun wank seems to happen while I'm in the woods, which goes to show) and I'm going to admit outright I've never read one of Diana Gabaldon's books, but I think it's time I made a post. And the reason I am making a post is that it haunts me.
A couple of days ago I mentioned Diana Gabaldon to someone in a private email, and since then people keep bringing her up either in my vicinity or to me directly -- at least five or six times, all different people. It's reached the point of absurdity. And I don't want to say Diana Gabaldon haunts me, because as a person I doubt she's aware of my existence, but clearly the concept of her is bearing on my psyche at the moment.
So here's a brief primer: In May of this year, author Diana Gabaldon posted a blog entry about her dislike of fanfic. It's gone missing now, but if you want a summary and screencaps the Fandom Wank entry is here. Quotes included "While not all fan-fic is pornographic by any means, enough of it is that it constitutes an aesthetic argument against the whole notion" and "I think it’s immoral, I know it’s illegal, and it makes me want to barf whenever I’ve inadvertently encountered some of it involving my characters." (You can still see her original post comparing writing fanfic to white slavery.)
There are enough things wrong with these two lines alone that I could write an essay, but they've already been written so you can read those and get the gist of my objections. I will say that the funniest part of that wank, for me, is that an author unexaminedly condemning fanfic is also an author who nicked one of her heroes off Doctor Who. No, for real. And for lulz.
Side note: I like fanfic, I like pornography, and I support and create both (often simultaneously). If you want to write fanfic of my books you go on ahead and by god you have fun. And if you want to make them porny, well, just try to make it good porn. And do read the antipope.org entry linked above first, because it's a good primer on How Not To Wig Out Your Canonist.
ANYWAY, aside from rolling around in slightly stale wank and exorcising the haunting, the point of this post is that the latest RANDOM ACT OF GABALDON to occur in my life was Selkie asking me to ask you for fanfic. Lord John Gray is one of Gabaldon's characters (not the Doctor Who one) and while canonically gay he apparently never gets laid. So Selkie would like reccs to Lord John Gray fanfic, which you may leave here, if you know of any. Or if you want to write some! I'm not fussed.
GET THEE BEHIND ME, FANWANK!
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Date: 2010-11-05 05:58 pm (UTC)I can't possibly summarize that.
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Date: 2010-11-05 06:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-05 06:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-05 06:15 pm (UTC)To be honest, I can't see the point of the wank. It looks to me as though they're just tearing things and other folk apart because it's fun. I'm right up there with 'give me some decent shit to read' and I've been known to take the piss mercilessly out of those who don't.
But I can't see the ACTUAL POINT of this?
Can you help me here? It really has gone right over my head?
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Date: 2010-11-05 06:19 pm (UTC)She is referencing a lot of fandom history and old wanks in her looooong post. And basically raking up stuff that was probably better left buried.
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Date: 2010-11-05 06:23 pm (UTC)I'm glad I'm not well known in any shape or form!
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Date: 2010-11-05 06:26 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-11-05 08:25 pm (UTC)That is the point of f_w and is why I rather dislike them, yes.