I've spent the last hour and a half reading this, and Sam, you are so awesome it's not even fair. I just-- my god! YOU BUILT A WHOLE MYTHOS, MAN. (Also you cast GDL as Ross and I about died and also HUGH LAURIE.)
And I ship Ellis/Edgar hardcore and it's FICTIONAL RPS, SAM. That should be a contradiction in terms!
It's an entire universe and I am so horribly intrigued, especially by the Doctor and Rose. Ianto is wry, self-aware, screwed-up love, as always. I even liked the Ellis/Edgar bits and I am not a RPF girl.
I really appreciate how everyone lives in this 'verse. It might not work on television but it does here, and it's such a relief.
Can you tell that I liked it? I do, just a little.
P.S.: This is such a pitch-perfect reproduction of fandom as well. Oh my fellow geeks.
Um. Um. OMG GINGER HUGH LAURIE INNA SCARF. And Professor Yana! And Dead Owen Done Right! And Doctor/Rose that didn't make me want to vomit, even a day after "Journey's End"! You sir, are an evil genius.
Really, though, what fun. This is the rollicking dirty sci-fi adventure Torchwood never quite becomes for me.
This, like the first story, makes me want to love Torchwood SO MUCH, which is, I think, the biggest compliment that I could give it. I just spent an entire afternoon that was supposed to be used to write and clean house reading this from start to finish and I do not regret it in the least. Totally fabulous, really XD
So much love for this fic and this series that I am sitting in bed, five hours from having to get up for work and squeeing reeeeeally quietly to myself so as not to wake anyone up.
We can haz this Torchwood nao?
I think what makes it great is not just the Edgar/Ellis scenes, but the little fics, the titles of the meta, just the whole thing.
Oh my god man. That took... took... took me like three hours to get through (though granted there were breaks for coffee and cigarettes and flailing and shouting, 'You magnificent bastard, you are going there!' Which happened often enough that I'm quite glad no one else is home). I can't even imagine how much effort went into that and I've just drunk an entire pot of coffee and. Seriously!
I don't know what I was expecting from the second season, but this is better.
Er, okay. One more thing, having collected myself enough to actually not-fail and say something:
The best fanfiction is always (obviously) the stuff that gives something to the canon, some insight or shine that deepens your understanding and appreciation for the thing itself. This here does something else, something I don't know if I've ever seen a fanwork do before.
I can't articulate exactly how - give me a few hours - but this... you've done something to Fandom with this. Expanded the concept for me in a way nothing has done since, well, since I discovered fanfiction existed almost a decade ago. I'm not sure I'm articulating this well... it's sort of hard for me to describe, hence all the ellipses.
Fandom suddenly seems bigger, brighter than it has in ages. I don't know if revolutionary is the word I want, but it's the word I seem to be thinking.
Congratulations Sam, you just killed my day to catch up on summer school homework. If I fail, I'm TOTALLY BLAMING YOU!
That said, brilliant. Oh my God, so wonderful. I think I'm going to be smirking for days now, because you've given me all sorts of warm fuzzies that I didn't even know existed. Loved the banter, loved the writing, thoroughly enjoyed all the 'behind the scenes' bits and Edgar/Ellis lives imitating what they were writing.
This was, basically, perfect. No, more than perfect, stellar, spot-on, wonderful, amazing, fantastic, brilliant and just a million more words that can't spring to mind right now because I'm still "GUH"ing over the brilliance of it all!
I cannot tell you how many times I cracked up laughing during this. Especially, and I don't know why, during the hamster bit. I seized up and giggled helplessly for about five minutes. I really really wish that was real, and there was video of it.
I know I've said this before, but you have such a talent, a gift, for creating fully-formed universes. It's the little scenes and tidbits that make it real. Ellis & Edgar, GDL as ROSS OMG, Jack having a past relationship with Professor Yana, Owen in the Hub computer, them having to drive to Springfield to meet Governor Blaine (and I completely agree with the hate, Springfield is in another dimension entirely) . . . I could go on and on.
I especially like the tattoos.
And how John Barrowman and David Tennant, together, would spell the end of the universe. :D
Oh God, I think I just had a Torchwood overdose. I've been mainlining episodes and fics all week, and this was the icing on the cake!
I am amazed by your imagination and talent, Sam. I agree with electricchicken, fandom is not quite the same now, at least for me. Have you ever read Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote, by Jorge Luis Borges? This feels a bit like that. Except that your Torchwood is actually different, and yet unmistakeably Torchwood... Oh, I don't know if I can explain myself, my English is not that good.
On a more frivolous note, OMG YOU CAST GARETH DAVID-LLOYD, AND HUGH LAURIE IS THE DOCTOR. *flails*
I literally had to scream into a pillow. Omfg, Sam. How can you possess so much brilliance? First, I loved Ace more than anyone ever, she was SOOO great. Second, HUGH!!!!! OMFG OMFG. Third, Rose/Doctor moment at the beginning: I didn't know whether to go "aww" or be sad. Also, can I say how much I love you for using both Hayden and Hikki? Because I do. Love you. Quite madly.
Damnit, I have to go to work in five hours and I have a cold and I read this instead of sleeping and crap, but I have no regrets. ♥
God, I've never seen an actual episode of old-school Who, and I'm still incredibly in glee about Ace. Because SHE BEAT UP A DALEK WITH A BASEBALL BAT. BASEBALL BAT!
And I trust that, when you have the time to come back to this (because seriously, you know you're going to), I trust you'll have found the way to fit Sarah Jane into this, because you haven't quote fully written the American Alt!Whoverse until you have the Sarah Jane Adventures.
I have to confess I've never seen an Ace episode either, but I still like her style :D
I would have worked in the Sarah Jane adventures, but I've never seen an episode of them. And, also, it's harder to fit her in because she's so much a part of the Doctor's backstory, which is vastly truncated here.
I did rather think about having Lethbridge somehow miraculously escape death by Dalek and get his own show, but god knows what I'd really do with it. :D
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Date: 2008-07-06 09:06 pm (UTC)And I ship Ellis/Edgar hardcore and it's FICTIONAL RPS, SAM. That should be a contradiction in terms!
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Date: 2008-07-06 09:16 pm (UTC)You, sir, are quite possibly an evil genius or wickedly brilliant. I can't decide which.
Wow.
::is blown away by the meta::
Am I really the first one?
Date: 2008-07-06 09:18 pm (UTC)It's an entire universe and I am so horribly intrigued, especially by the Doctor and Rose. Ianto is wry, self-aware, screwed-up love, as always. I even liked the Ellis/Edgar bits and I am not a RPF girl.
I really appreciate how everyone lives in this 'verse. It might not work on television but it does here, and it's such a relief.
Can you tell that I liked it? I do, just a little.
P.S.: This is such a pitch-perfect reproduction of fandom as well. Oh my fellow geeks.
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Date: 2008-07-06 09:46 pm (UTC)I do ship Edgar/Ellis so freaking hard, though.
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Date: 2008-07-06 09:49 pm (UTC)*thumbsup*
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Date: 2008-07-06 10:02 pm (UTC)Looooooooove this, all of this!
Dude. Just. Dude. And now I'm having a fun time imagining the next three seasons of each show, but this is enough, this is *cool*. *glees*
More comments on each bit after I finish my stories and get other stuff done, this took a *bite* out of my afternoon!
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Date: 2008-07-06 11:30 pm (UTC)Um. Um. OMG GINGER HUGH LAURIE INNA SCARF. And Professor Yana! And Dead Owen Done Right! And Doctor/Rose that didn't make me want to vomit, even a day after "Journey's End"! You sir, are an evil genius.
Really, though, what fun. This is the rollicking dirty sci-fi adventure Torchwood never quite becomes for me.
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Date: 2008-07-07 01:38 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-07-07 12:38 am (UTC)We can haz this Torchwood nao?
I think what makes it great is not just the Edgar/Ellis scenes, but the little fics, the titles of the meta, just the whole thing.
Also GDL AS ROSS IS A STROKE OF GENIUS!
*bows down to your greatness*
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Date: 2008-07-07 01:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-07 12:45 am (UTC)I don't know what I was expecting from the second season, but this is better.
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Date: 2008-07-07 01:12 am (UTC)The best fanfiction is always (obviously) the stuff that gives something to the canon, some insight or shine that deepens your understanding and appreciation for the thing itself. This here does something else, something I don't know if I've ever seen a fanwork do before.
I can't articulate exactly how - give me a few hours - but this... you've done something to Fandom with this. Expanded the concept for me in a way nothing has done since, well, since I discovered fanfiction existed almost a decade ago. I'm not sure I'm articulating this well... it's sort of hard for me to describe, hence all the ellipses.
Fandom suddenly seems bigger, brighter than it has in ages. I don't know if revolutionary is the word I want, but it's the word I seem to be thinking.
It's... neat. And really, really unexpected.
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Date: 2008-07-07 03:39 am (UTC)That said, brilliant. Oh my God, so wonderful. I think I'm going to be smirking for days now, because you've given me all sorts of warm fuzzies that I didn't even know existed. Loved the banter, loved the writing, thoroughly enjoyed all the 'behind the scenes' bits and Edgar/Ellis lives imitating what they were writing.
This was, basically, perfect. No, more than perfect, stellar, spot-on, wonderful, amazing, fantastic, brilliant and just a million more words that can't spring to mind right now because I'm still "GUH"ing over the brilliance of it all!
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Date: 2008-07-07 04:07 am (UTC)I loved the first season, and now I love the second season and the spin off - GDL as Ross! I so want to see this show. It is a must to be filmed!
This is in the memories and poisonivy and jeky, two of my favourite people... :)
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Date: 2008-07-07 04:38 am (UTC)I know I've said this before, but you have such a talent, a gift, for creating fully-formed universes. It's the little scenes and tidbits that make it real. Ellis & Edgar, GDL as ROSS OMG, Jack having a past relationship with Professor Yana, Owen in the Hub computer, them having to drive to Springfield to meet Governor Blaine (and I completely agree with the hate, Springfield is in another dimension entirely) . . . I could go on and on.
I especially like the tattoos.
And how John Barrowman and David Tennant, together, would spell the end of the universe. :D
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Date: 2008-07-07 05:31 am (UTC)I am amazed by your imagination and talent, Sam. I agree with
On a more frivolous note, OMG YOU CAST GARETH DAVID-LLOYD, AND HUGH LAURIE IS THE DOCTOR. *flails*
So, it's official. I have a new fandom.
*takes off to find a Torchwood icon*
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Date: 2008-07-07 01:04 pm (UTC)I have some Torchwood icons here, free for use:
http://pics.livejournal.com/copperbadge/gallery/000496hg
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Date: 2008-07-07 05:57 am (UTC);alskdjf I may have melted into a puddle of goo.
[standing ovation for Sam] Congratulations, Sam. This was one hell of a ride.
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Date: 2008-07-07 06:41 am (UTC)Damnit, I have to go to work in five hours and I have a cold and I read this instead of sleeping and crap, but I have no regrets. ♥
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Date: 2008-07-07 04:21 pm (UTC)God, I've never seen an actual episode of old-school Who, and I'm still incredibly in glee about Ace. Because SHE BEAT UP A DALEK WITH A BASEBALL BAT. BASEBALL BAT!
And I trust that, when you have the time to come back to this (because seriously, you know you're going to), I trust you'll have found the way to fit Sarah Jane into this, because you haven't quote fully written the American Alt!Whoverse until you have the Sarah Jane Adventures.
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Date: 2008-07-07 05:02 pm (UTC)I would have worked in the Sarah Jane adventures, but I've never seen an episode of them. And, also, it's harder to fit her in because she's so much a part of the Doctor's backstory, which is vastly truncated here.
I did rather think about having Lethbridge somehow miraculously escape death by Dalek and get his own show, but god knows what I'd really do with it. :D
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Date: 2008-07-07 05:24 pm (UTC)Either way, this is brilliant! Now I want to watch it on TV, damn =p
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Date: 2008-07-07 05:46 pm (UTC)Fabulous!